FOREX QUANT

June 24, 2007

Steps to becoming a profitable trader

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 9:57 pm
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I found this good article on a trader’s personal website. It is about steps to becoming a profitable trader. It is a good reading. On which step are you now ?

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There are a number of steps to becoming a FOREX trader and they are outlined below. Please take the time to read it because if you are going to succeed it is important that you have your feet firmly on the ground and have some idea of what to expect. The following text is reproduced with the permission of SoulTrader of http://www.simpleforexsystems.com

My experience to date personally and in discussion with other traders confirms its accuracy.

Step One: Unconscious Incompetence.

This is the first step you take when starting to look into trading. you know that its a good way of making money because you’ve heard so many things about it and heard of so many millionaires. Unfortunately, just like when you first desire to drive a car you think it will be easy – after all, how hard can it be? Price either moves up or down – what’s the big secret to that then – lets get cracking!

Unfortunately, just as when you first take your place in front of a steering wheel you find very quickly that you haven’t got the first clue about what you’re trying to do. You take lots of trades and lots of risks. When you enter a trade it turns against you so you reverse and it turns again .. and again, and again.

You try to turn around your losses by doubling up every time you trade. Sometimes you’ll get away with it but more often than not you will come away scathed and bruised You are totally oblivious to your incompetence at trading.

This step can last for a week or two of trading but the market is usually swift and you move.

Step Two – Conscious Incompetence

Step two is where you realise that there is more work involved in trading and that you might actually have to work a few things out. You consciously realise that you are an incompetent trader – you don’t have the skills or the insight to turn a regular profit.

You now set about buying systems and e-books galore, read websites based everywhere from USA to the Ukraine. and begin your search for the holy grail. During this time you will be a system nomad – you will flick from method to method day by day and week by week never sticking with one long enough to actually see if it does work. Every time you come upon a new indicator you’ll be ecstatic that this is the one that will make all the difference.

You will test out automated systems on Metatrader, you’ll play with moving averages, Fibonacci lines, support & resistance, Pivots, Fractals, Divergence, DMI, ADX, and a hundred other things all in the vein hope that your ‘magic system’ starts today. You’ll be a top and bottom picker, trying to find the exact point of reversal with your indicators and you’ll find yourself chasing losing trades and even adding to them because you are so sure you are right.

You’ll go into the live chat room and see other traders making pips and you want to know why it’s not you – you’ll ask a million questions, some of which are so dumb that looking back you feel a bit silly. You’ll then reach the point where you think all the ones who are calling pips after pips are liars – they cant be making that amount because you’ve studied and you don’t make that, you know as much as they do and they must be lying. But they’re in there day after day and their account just grows whilst yours falls.

You will be like a teenager – the traders that make money will freely give you advice but you’re stubborn and think that you know best – you take no notice and overtrade your account even though everyone says you are mad to – but you know better. You’ll consider following the calls that others make but even then it wont work so you try paying for signals from someone else – they don’t work for you either.

This step can last ages and ages – in fact in reality talking with other traders as well as personal experience confirms that it can easily last well over a year. This is also the step when you are most likely to give up through sheer frustration.

Eventually you do begin to come out of this phase. You’ve probably committed more time and money than you ever thought you would, lost 2 or 3 loaded accounts and all but given up maybe 3 or 4 times.

Step 3 – The Eureka Moment

Towards the end of stage two you begin to realise that it’s not the system that is making the difference. You realise that its actually possible to make money with a simple moving average and nothing else IF you can get your head and money management right You start to read books on the psychology of trading and identify with the characters portrayed in those books and finally comes the eureka moment.

The eureka moment causes a new connection to be made in your brain. You suddenly realise that neither you, nor anyone else can accurately predict what the market will do in the next ten seconds, never mind the next 20 mins. You start to work just one system that you mould to your own way of trading, you’re starting to get happy and you define your risk threshold.

You start to take every trade that your ‘edge’ shows has a good probability of winning with. When the trade turns bad you don’t get angry or even because you know in your head that as you couldn’t possibly predict it it isn’t your fault – as soon as you realise that the trade is bad you close it . The next trade will have higher odds of success because you know your system works.

You have realised in an instant that the trading game is about one thing – consistency of your ‘edge’ and your discipline to take all the trades no matter what as you know the probabilities stack in your favour.

You learn about proper money management and leverage – risk of account etc etc – and this time it actually soaks in and you think back to those who advised the same thing a year ago with a smile. You weren’t ready then, but you are now. The eureka moment came the moment that you truly accepted that you cannot predict the market.

Step 4 – Conscious Competence

You are making trades whenever your system tells you to. You take losses just as easily as you take wins You now let your winners run to their conclusion fully accepting the risk and knowing that your system makes more money than it looses and when you’re on a loser you close it swiftly with little pain to your account

You are now at a point where you break even most of the time – day in day out, you will have weeks where you make 100 pips and weeks where you lose 100 pips – generally you are breaking even and not losing money. You are now conscious of the fact that you are making calls that are generally good and you are getting respect from other traders as you chat the day away. You still have to work at it and think about your trades but as this continues you begin to make more money than you lose consistently.

You’ll start the day on a 20 pip win, take a 35 pip loss and have no feelings that you’ve given those pips back because you know that it will come back again. You will now begin to make consistent pips week in and week out 25 pips one week, 50 the next and so on.

This lasts about 6 months

Step Five – Unconscious Competence

Now we’re cooking – just like driving a car, every day you get in your seat and trade – you do everything now on an unconscious level. You are running on autopilot. You start to pick the really big trades and getting 100 pips in a day is becoming quite normal to you. This is trading utopia – you have mastered your emotions and you are now a trader with a rapidly growing account.

You’re a star in the trading chat room and people listen to what you say. You recognise yourself in their questions from about two years ago. You pass on your advice but you know most of it is futile because they’re teenagers – some of them will get to where you are – some will do it fast and others will be slower – literally dozens and dozens will never get past stage two, but a few will.

Trading is no longer exciting – in fact it’s probably boring you to bits – like everything in life when you get good at it or do it for your job – it gets boring – you’re doing your job and that’s that.

You can now say with your head held high “I’m a currency trader”

FACT : 90%+ of traders loose money trading FOREX.

I quote from Dr Alexander Elder’s excellent book, Trading for a Living

“Brokerage records indicate that 90 out of 100 people trading today will probably be gone from the markets a year from now. They will hit rock bottom, crumble and leave. They will try to forget trading as they would a bad dream.”

The £64000 question is : Are you prepared to put in the time and effort necessary to put yourself into the <10% group who make money? There are no shortcuts.

That’s the long and short of it folks (couldn’t resist using that pun!) If I’ve put you off already, excellent. FOREX is not for you and you’ll save yourself money and frustration. If you are still fascinated, on the FOREX Info, FOREX Books and FOREX Tips links, you will find more than enough information and books to set you on the path to success.

I’m no FOREX expert or super trading guru but everything provided on these pages has at different times assisted me on my way. If I haven’t found the material helpful, or well written, it’s not on my page! I wish you every success on your trading adventure.

My philosophy is one of Trader help Trader. Much of what I have learned is by others giving their time and knowledge free of charge. If there is any way whatsoever that you think I can help you, please contact me. However, please do remember :

June 18, 2007

Fwd: [MT_E and I] Moderators: You rang?

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 2:16 pm
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I’m proud of being his friend and knowing him personally.

Rgrds,
Darma

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: umanmojo
Date: Jun 18, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: [MT_E and I] Moderators: You rang?
To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com

Folks, it’s been a long while since moderators said anything.
Honestly, we don’t like to but since there have been several hails for moderators lately, here goes:

If we remember correctly, the RSI pullback technique was originally pointed out by blackprinzze and welcomed by David Honeywell’s indicator code (transport_david) then soon gets adopted by others as Expert Advisors. Apparently, after certain phase of code development, the source codes to later enhancements is not divulged though the final compiled file is shared freely for trading. We dont think this categorizes as a phishing-like exploit, as we all know what the basic concept is and everyone is welcome to develop their own versions of the same concept. A grey area, but it’s more or less still workable.

The no .ex4 policy was originally made on the ground that people are using the sample file for either commercial/phishing exploit or senseless bragging – both keeping others out of participation to gain profit along with the author. If you do not want other people to use it and profit with no strings attached, SHUT UP & KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. The group is made for sharing after all. Please keep praises, comments, reminders, and critics to be constructive and leading for an objective conclusion, if solution is harder to find.

If anybody wants to do better, then have your own tweak/idea, show it, prove it, open the code, and continue supporting it. Ron Thompson has set an excellent example on his BollTrader and we are truly grateful for his selfless efforts.

Honestly we, the moderators, are quite surprised that with all the website forums on trading and metatrader code development out there, the YahooMT group is still breathing and stronger than ever with 8500 members. The group had come a long way from 2004 being the first
international group to focus on Metatrader (version3 days), survived through the troublesome days of early Metatrader 4 technical and broker issues, and still wrestling newer builds today. A free charting/development software that was previously unnoticed has paved the way for normal folks to take a shot at making money in the entrepreneurial & rather rocket-scientist way.

As some of you who have been with us since the beginning, you may know that we never liked to have a ‘moderated’ group. The only thing that’s moderated here with extreme prejudice is SPAMMING. We have strong personalities on board that represent different personal values. With that, you eventually have your occasional dose of name-callings, brawls, flames, pissing contest (which we didnt want sponsor-ridden, eventually cancelled, and coincidentally later MQL4 championship came out), whatever – you name it. All the spices that make a community colorful. But guess what? We are still here and learned to get along better with each other as new day comes.

By design, this mailing list/group is NOT a threaded forum and will never be. Strangely it still survived as is. Why? Because everybody likes to have his/her nose pointed at one direction, at one time or another. What you typed, attached, and sent to the group will be
served on the front page of things. The disadvantage? Try 100’s of mails/messages a day. Work with or around it. There are more than one way to organize the group’s mails.

Great ideas have been put forward here and worked out, if not come and go. Elder’s TSD (yes remember that one with the multi-timeframe backtest tweak on MT3?), FFCal, BollTrader, now RSI_R2 come superRSI, to name a few. A lot of EAs/indicators/methods have had their
15minutes of fame. We’re expecting more of those with better community attitude and support, but on minimal moderation. We’re all grown ups – or at least we thought we should be.

So,

To newbies and topic jumpers:
READ FIRST, ASK LATER. It’s all there. In case you subscribed on digest format or without attachment since you thought you were getting too many messages, don’t complain if you are missing the goodies. You got what you asked for, so avoid whining and if you do have to whine, be polite. Also, don’t complain if people wont answer right away, because they did, a few posts back. (Yes, we know you didn’t look thoroughly). Remember, even nice people can get pissed off. Thanks again to Ron’s generosity you can pickup what you’re missing at http://www.ForexMT4.com/

We won’t judge or stone you for joining only since you just heard of profitable EA’s here. There is no elite/non-elite stuff going on here. Only people who wouldn’t read the archives (and the link in the group joining/welcome mail message!!!) and people who would.

To the regulars:
APPLY RESPECT. It has been great so far and we think the group can be better. Thank you for making this little place great with your contributions.

More power & pips to all!

Mods (Bill, Mojo, Smoky, Perky)

Final tip:
Subscribe to this group in full with attachment and the whole shebangs through GMail. You can store up to 2-3 years worth of group messages complete with file attachments. Then use the GMail rules to forward them to your daily POP3 mailbox or organize them by labels. If you want to look for something later, look at your GMail archive. Yahoo mails are getting unlimited capacity, but we are not sure about organizational feature. Can somebody confirm?

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Archive of metatrader forum discussion

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 2:09 am
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Link: http://www.ForexMT4.com/

this is where all the goodies are stored.
thanks to Ron who provide the site.

June 14, 2007

Fwd: Preventing over-leveraging (Was: IBFX problems)

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 1:25 am
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———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Darma
Date: Jun 14, 2007 8:26 AM
Subject: Preventing over-leveraging (Was: IBFX problems)
To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com
Cc: indotraders@yahoogroups.com

Regarding preventing over leveraging the account, i have these lines on my EAs :

// Money Management
if (prm_mm_enabled) {
volume = NormalizeDouble((AccountBalance()*prm_gearing_ratio)
/(prm_pair_diversify*MarketInfo(Symbol(),MODE_LOTSIZE)),
prm_lot_resolution);
} else {
volume = prm_mm_fixed_volume;
}
if (volume > MarketInfo(Symbol(), MODE_MAXLOT)) {
volume = MarketInfo(Symbol(), MODE_MAXLOT);
} else if (volume < MarketInfo(Symbol(), MODE_MINLOT)) {
volume = MarketInfo(Symbol(), MODE_MINLOT);
}

i use prm_gearing_ratio = 5 to 6. 10 is the most agressive number for me.
prm_pair_diversify needs to be input externally by me since i havent found a way for the EA to detect by itself how many pairs it is trading in a single account at a particular moment.
Does anyone has any idea on this?

Rgrds,
Darma

On 6/13/07, accrete <yahoogrp01@accrete.com > wrote:

I agree on not overleveraging the account. I know that (as mentioned and hoped for by another member) the idea Bluto stated he would incorporate in a future version is that of telling the EA just how much of the account it was allowed to trade. This would add a measure of safety also.

: ) Thom

—– Original Message —–
From: Sam

One thing to avoid is overleverage. I believe it’s best to leverage only around 10-20% of the account. Usually when we overleverage we want to be stringing on SL thereby prone to SL hunting as well as margin call danger. Forex is full of suprises. The goal is to be able to survive long term.

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June 12, 2007

Risenberg triathlon team

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 12:07 pm
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Risenberg Triathlon Team, will compete in the Bali International Triathlon, June 24th 2007.

The team members are:

Swimming: Bayu Putra.
3rd winner of International Lifeguard Championship, Sydney
Porda Bali, Klungkung Contigent
Private Trainer, Denpasar

Cycling: Cahya S
Gadjah Merapi Speed Cycling Club

Running: Ozias Ramlasi
PON Gold Medal for 3 period consecutively
Bronze Medal, Sea Games, Malaysia

For more information on the event, please visit the Bali International Triathlon website. http://www.balitriathlon.com

Risenberg Capital (www.risenberg.com) is an investment advisor specializing in the trading of the global currency market. Risenberg invest in research-based trading strategies. By partnering with Risenberg individual and institutional clients have gained access to robust trading strategies to be applied in their trading activity.

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June 6, 2007

Fwd: historical economic calendar?

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 4:51 am
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———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Darma
Date: Jun 6, 2007 3:00 PM
Subject: historical economic calendar?
To: MetaTrader_Experts_and_Indicators@yahoogroups.com
Cc: indotraders@yahoogroups.com,
Berjangka_Derivatives@yahoogroups.com, milis-aati@yahoogroups.com

Dear friends,

Does anyone know where can be found an HISTORICAL economic calendar
for the US, or Japan or Europe or just any of them?
for example, i wud like to know what was the economic data schedule
for the date of May 17th 2000, a certain day some several years ago ?
e.g. : was it a holiday? or was it a CPI day? or was it an Interest
Rate decision day?

Much appreciate.

June 5, 2007

Pamit!

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 11:28 am
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Pamit.
Good bye.
It has been a great time with you all, guys!!
Thank you.

June 3, 2007

Seminar with Pak Hasan Zein (15 photos)

Filed under: Uncategorized — by TraderMade @ 6:09 pm
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Was expected to be an important milestone.
It was about being a man with wings to fly.

I cant stand to fly, I’m not that naive
Man weren’t meant to ride with clouds between their knees.

Thanks to Aditya and friends at Topgrowth Futures.

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